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Since it's founding in 1997, the CYC-Net discussion group has been asked thousands of questions. These questions often generate many replies from people in all spheres of the Child and Youth Care profession and contain personal experiences, viewpoints, as well as recommended resources.

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Secure care?


I am working on a project for one of my college courses and am having trouble finding information about secure care. Does any one have information about secure care? And, more specifically, the social milieu in a secure care environment?



You will find a great deal of information in the articles in our Readarounds section under Juvenile Detention, which you can access here: (Eds.)

I recommend the new book by Alexandra Cox called “Trapped in a vice. The consequences of confinement for young people”.


Yes, please refer to Leon Fulcher's 'Sisters of Pain' published by CYC-Net Press.

Good luck!

Aliese Moran

Hi Ellie

We have bundles.

Find 15 staff training sessions in secure care at our site about how to practice research based secure care for children and youth placed outside home – in 17 language versions. Free of charge.

Simply open the link and move the cursor over Foster or Group Care and open any session.

Best from Niels

Hi Ellie,

Contact Vivian Van Wagner at Syl Apps Youth Centre who is a senior manager there. Vivian knows everything about SAYC and its history and how they run the Centre from a social environment perspective ... you can tell her I suggested you contact her. Syl Apps Youth Centre is a secure treatment, custody and detention facility located in Oakville, ON. Good luck!

Kristina Arena

Hi Ellie,

Victoria Australia has two statewide secure care units: one for young men and one for young women. Both have a capacity of 10-12 for young people aged 10 – 17 who are considered at risk to self or others. Initially information can be found at and just type in secure welfare. This will access Victorian Government Child Protection Manual. If you have any issues with this or require more info please let me know.

Best wishes


Hi there,

I suppose the type of ‘secure care’ is one thing to consider. I’m sure it will differ from country to country depending on the laws in the countries. I found that it also depends on the number of children you are dealing with in a secure care environment, which demands varying approaches to programs. Brendtro, Brokenleg and Van Bockern’ s book, ‘Reclaiming Youth at Risk: Our Hope for the Future’ is also very good. There is a training video that they use and there is also another good video/dvd that you can watch to give you an idea of what you can use in your everyday approach called ‘Once Were Warriors’. I think it has a New Zealand background.


Go to The CYC-Net Press and look for the e-book or print version of ‘Sisters of Pain: An Ethnography of Young Women Living in Secure Care’. My co-author – Aliese Moran – was one of the young women in that secure unit.

It all depends on whether you wish to look at secure care from the angle of the young people living in them.

Good luck.
Leon Fulcher

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