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Our agency is interested in putting together a training geared specifically for Child and Youth Care staff who work on the overnight shift. Is anyone aware of resources out there geared to this specific type of training? Any thoughts on competencies that are specific to overnight workers? What are the particular skills needed for this position? Thanks.
Frank Delano
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This is an area that seems to be overlooked a great deal in our field. 
	Overnights are an essential part of any program. There is a need for an 
	increased awareness of what people do on overnight shifts. In the program I 
	am involved in we focus on the process that the young people may need in 
	order to go to bed as this can be a very frightening or hard time to get 
	settled. This can include having some night time rituals like getting hot 
	chocolate made, being tucked in, running a bath for the young people a half 
	an hour before bed, reading from a book they enjoy or just dimming the 
	lights in the living room so that there is a different atmosphere in the 
	centre. I personally see people that do overnights as very important as they 
	help the young people make the transition to bed and also wake them up in 
	the morning. This takes getting to know each young person individually as 
	some like to have one wake up call, some like to have a song sung to them 
	(whether it is off key or not), some like a cup of coffee brought to them, 
	some like to have the shower turned on so the water is nice and hot when 
	they go to the bathroom. With overnights, comes the potential for 
	nightmares, terrors or a young person getting up and getting a drink. These 
	type of things needed to be treated with consideration and empathy and this 
	is not always an easy thing when a youth care worker has already been up for 
	six hours or so but the people I work with do it – and do it exceptionally. 
	Along with this there are meals to prepare and things to clean so that the 
	next shifts run smoothly also. I don't know of any training that is 
	available but I would also be interested if you find any. You may be able to 
	tell I am quite passionate about this subject because I think sometimes 
	those who do not or have not done night shifts for a while tend to forget 
	just how important they are for the young people and also for the other 
	staff in any program.
	
	Donna Banks
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	I think that overnight shifts are important, and that the staff working 
	these shifts need to be trained basically. But face it, they have little 
	contact with youngsters, and their ability to be with kids need not be a 
	strength. Why put the resources into training people to work these shifts? 
	Unless they also work during other hours of the day. A thought.
	
	Maggie Leigh
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	I myself am an overnight youth care worker. I work in a facility that is 
	double, and sometimes triple staffed during the day, but that is single 
	staffed at night. In this, and other situations where I have worked 
	overnights in residential facilities, I find that the issue of training for 
	night staff is one that is largely overlooked. I understand that overnight 
	staff's contact with the children is usually minimal, but in cases where 
	there is some sort of disturbance, I find myself at a loss. I feel that if I 
	were offered more training opportunities, I would be more effective in my 
	current position, as I would have a better understanding of how to 
	effectively deal with these, and other situations that may arise. I feel 
	that if I were offered the same training opportunities as the day staff, I 
	would also be a more effective component of the team as a whole, as I would 
	better understand the theories and principles behind the work. Overnight 
	staff are not just "housekeepers", and our interaction with the children we 
	care for, though minimal, is just as important as that of the day staff. In 
	order for night staff to interact with each child in an effective and 
	positive way when the opportunity arises, as well as to ensure that the 
	actions of an overnight staff do not undermine in any way the efforts of the 
	team, I feel that training opportunities should be made more available to 
	us.
	
	Heather Pratt
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	I recently met an adult who as a youth was in the residential treatment 
	center that I am now working at. In our conversation she stated that the one 
	thing out of the whole time she was there that stuck out for her was that an 
	overnight staff went out of her way to get the girl a cold drink of water 
	from the fridge instead of water from the tap. Maybe what we all should 
	realize, not just overnight staff, is that underneath the labels and 
	diagnosis are youth that need to be cared for and doted on. Overnight 
	workers should have the same training as day staff. After all, isn't that 
	what the youth deserve? Something to consider.
	
	Susan Sinclair
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	Maggie:
	I have to disagree with your opinion on the low importance of training night 
	shift people. Your program must be a great deal different than the one I 
	work in because the night shift is a very important part of the day. You 
	might find The Other 23 Hours – Child Care Work with emotionally 
	disturbed children in a therapeutic milieu by Albert E. Treischman, 
	James K. Whittaker & Larry K. Brendtro may be a book that gives a bit of 
	insight into the importance of bedtime routines and also how a young person 
	gets woken up in the morning.
	
	Donna Banks
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	Night time observations are the frosting on the cake, the truth come home to 
	rest. Having two very competent night people has been a major factor in some 
	youth being successful in the residential treatment program. Nightly 
	observation reports are a part of the daily entry on each youth. Everything 
	in between the begining of the evening routine right up to the school bus 
	fits in there. Who sleeps how, position, restless or calm, sleep walking, 
	talking, including length, content, and voice. At bed time who goes right to 
	sleep and who is it that hangs out with staff waiting for others to get 
	settled before they turn in. Who walks on their heels with heavy feet after 
	lights out and who softly wakes to get a drink or use the restroom. How many 
	times does one kid get up a night. Is it more before or after being home for 
	the weekend or after his family visited the center. Observations. No 
	judgments no therapy, not light bulbs going off in the kids head. But from 
	my view a key to treatment. I use the night reports as a window to see the 
	youth from a different vantage point.
	
	Larry James
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	Wow! I admit to having a very strong reaction to the response by Maggie 
	regarding the training needs and support of overnight staff. One of the 
	cornerstones of milieu care is that treatment (and, therefore, change) can 
	occur at anytime in the 24-hour day. Programs must be ready at any moment to 
	assist a young child in crisis, to provide a sense of safety so that youth 
	may let down their old defense and survival mechanisms and attempt to look 
	at their world in a new way, and to be present as we are truly "with" ayouth 
	as they re-navigate their lives. While I agree that most likely an overnight 
	staff in a residential center will have less direct contact with youth, 
	their contribution to the facility and to the treatment is no less important 
	than any other staff. In this regards, overnight staff need the same amount 
	of attention, support and training in the critical components of their shift 
	and within good old-fashioned Child and Youth Care work. What the field 
	needs (and what we should be demanding) is an increase in resources so we 
	never have to determine which shift within our milieu gets attention and who 
	does not.
	
	Peter Rosenblatt
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	I feel that overnight staff are just as important as daytime staff. In my 
	experience, they deal with the same issues that daytime staff deals with, 
	and they are often alone to face that challenge. I believe that they should 
	get as much support and training as any daytime worker considering that they 
	are working with kids in care.
	
	Sara
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	I already wrote one note on this subject but I think I should make one more 
	point. Night staff are given the same 40 hrs. of training that all staff 
	receive as well as the ongoing trainings during staff meetings every month. 
	I know some programs that actually pay the night staff more than some of the 
	regular line staff. From my view this is money well spent. Our night staff 
	set the tone for the day by all the prep work they do. They also do all the 
	data base documentation and recording done during the day. The develop the 
	hygiene and morning skill building and routine programs. Night staff are 
	entry level but what better way to get a picture of the overall program. It 
	is like working a piece of every shift every day.
	
	Larry James
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	In the 1970s I worked at a residential school for children with severe 
	learning disabilities that was considered to be excellent and was excellent – except for its night staff who were underqualified, underpaid, and poorly 
	supervised. Physical abuse of a child by one of these staff who was probably 
	at a loss about how to deal with a behavioural challenge (as Heather 
	mentioned) was a major factor in the school having its license pulled.
	
	In the 1980s and 1990s I spent much of my time working with a small group of 
	colleagues, former students and parents to uncover rampant abuse that was 
	taking place at Jericho Hill School for the Deaf in BC. The culture of 
	sexual violence that had developed at the school was rampant at night (e.g. 
	nightly gang rapes of both male and female students of all ages by both male 
	and female teens). Further, during the 1970s and 1980s the school had 
	attracted several pedophiles who liked working at night and on the weekends.
	
	I think child-centred staff training for and close supervision of staff on 
	all shifts is absolutely critical to child safety in any residential setting 
	including summer camps and weekend retreats. The philosophy of safety, 
	respect, and non-violence must pervade the entire 24 hours or our children 
	are in danger.
	
	Linda Hill
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	Further thread ...
	Re Child Care Night Cover: I would be grateful to access information on the 
	issue of Live Cover or Waking Staff in Residential Child Care Centres.
	Tony Moore
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	Hello Tony: Here in Ohio, Children's Residential Centers are required by 
	government standards to have at least 1 staff awake and actively supervising 
	(i.e., documented bed checks every 15 minutes) on each floor of a building. 
	These standards – first put into practice during the mid-1980s – also 
	prohibit children being left in a facility without adult supervision.
	
	In many agencies, include the one I work for, two staff are used per floor 
	for client/staff safety and supervision issues.
	
	Chip Bonsutto