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Hi Everyone:
	
	The Alberta Association of Services to Children and Families has recently 
	chosen to abolish the use of face down restraints, believing that they 
	constitute a "behavior management practice that has been found to be 
	dangerous and life threatening". I'm curious to know if other 
	provinces/states/countries have implemented similar measures and, if so, how 
	individual agencies have adjusted their practice, and their training, to 
	accommodate this.
	
	Thanks.
	Gord Robinson,
	Calgary
	...
	
	Replying to Gord Robinson's query of yesterday ...
	
	In our agency we abolished them (face downs) and all staff retrained with 
	one person and two person "side facing" restraints as an alternative option.
	
	Neil
	...
	
	Hi
	
	In Ontario, we have not had face down restraints in a while. PMAB, UMAB and 
	the likes have developed face up restraints that I have heard are very safe 
	and workable (I do not do restraints out of principle ... and have never 
	needed to). They involve 2 staff and are a little more intimate than other 
	restraints I have seen. It is hard to describe the technique in words but 
	basically, the client's arms are bent up around the side of their head and 
	entwined with the staffs arm to create a spit barrier/head hold, and the 
	rest of the body is held in place with the staff's hips and legs on top of 
	the clients ... like they are laying beside and partially on the youth.
	
	See what I mean about hard to explain!
	
	I would agree that the face down restraints are much easier to initiate than 
	the face up, but due to the recent deaths of youth in the face down, this is 
	the way it has to be I guess.
	
	I have a great technique ... use words not hands. has worked for me for over 
	10 years!
	
	Does that answer your question?
	Laura
	...
	
	Hi, Gord,
I am from Alberta and I wholly embrace the idea of 
	no restraints at all.
	
	Joyce
	...
	
	Mr. Robinson,
	
	Please find the
	
	attached memo which outlines the Best Practices in Behavior Management 
	project findings on the use of one-person restraints.
	
	Lloyd Bullard 
	...
	
	Hi Gord
	
	I work in a residential care home in Edinburgh, Scotland. Edinburgh Council 
	Social Work Department have decided to scrap Prone restraint (face down) 
	for safety reasons for young people. I also believe that CALM (Crisis & 
	Aggression, Limitation Management) have put in place other safer techniques 
	such as the two person figure four hold. This allows young people to keep 
	their dignity as well as ensuring a safer restraint. This also allows staff 
	to seat the young person down on to a sofa rather than face down on a floor.
	
	Kind regards
	Jane
	...
	
	Hi Gord
	There have been a number of changes to legislation as it relates to the use 
	of physical restraints within the province of Ontario, in part as a result 
	of a number of deaths of children/ youth who died while in prone restraints. 
	Following a number of reviews and inquests, the Ministry of Community, 
	Family and Children's Services made these legislative changes. This includes 
	all physical restraints must now be reported as serious occurrences if they 
	take place in license residential setting. All direct care staff within 
	residential settings must now be trained in a crisis management program that 
	is approved by the Ministry. As well they must be
	informed of the legislation, any changes or amendments , agency policies 
	(within 30 of hire). There are crisis management programs included in the 6 
	approved by the Ministry that have prone restraints but the legislation now 
	includes a statement that the child's condition must be continually 
	monitored and assessed and when there is a risk that the physical restraint 
	itself will endanger the health or safety of the resident it must be 
	stopped.
I am an instructor in a crisis management program called 
	PMAB, "The Prevention and Management of Aggressive Behaviour." Up until 
	approximately 1 year ago this program included teaching participants how to 
	implement a face down restraint. This technique has been removed due to risk 
	such a position creates for many people. Prone positions can compromise a 
	persons
	ability to breathe and this can be further compromised if the person has any 
	of the following medical conditions , respiratory or heart problems, obesity 
	and several others. PMAB promotes that if a child ends up in a prone 
	position, staff must quickly transition the child /youth to an up-right or 
	face up position as quickly as possible due to these risks. I hope this is 
	helpful.
	
	Kim Stevens
	Day Treatment ,
	Intensive Services Supervisor
	Vanier
	...
	
	I was interested to read the recent mailings with regard to many issues that 
	are associated with the use, or not, of face down (prone) restraints. I am 
	employed as a Professional Development Manager within a large Local 
	Authority in the UK (Surrey). I am an instructor of the 'Positive Options' 
	for the management of actual and potential aggression model of physical 
	intervention, and am also responsible for co-ordination of county-wide 
	training in this model, and involvement in policy and planning matters with
	regard to the use of restrictive physical interventions with children & 
	young people.
	
	The risks associated with prone restraint are becoming increasingly 
	documented and evident to us all, and last year the UK Government, through 
	the Departments of Health and Education& Skills, issued joint guidance on 
	the use of restrictive physical interventions. The elevated level of risk 
	associated with floor restraints, and of using techniques which involve 
	extending or flexing joints or putting pressure on the joints was 
	emphasised.
	
	I am particularly interested to pursue the thread emerging of organisations 
	and authorities banning completely all prone restraints. How does one do 
	this and yet still keep all concerned in a difficult or dangerous situation 
	safe? Whilst I would agree entirely that it is a highly desirable outcome, I 
	believe, based upon my own experience of twelve years as a practitioner 
	working with children and young people who display difficult or aggressive 
	behaviour in a variety of settings, that the subject of the intervention 
	itself will on occasions take the restraint to the floor themselves, often 
	in a very dynamic movement. This might be an attempt at self harm , or a 
	determined attempt to evade the efforts of staff to manage their behaviour.
	
	Is it not the case that in prohibiting staff from managing such an 
	eventuality, rather than advising against its use if at all possible,
	service users, staff and third parties might be put at risk or alternatively 
	that service users could be given a tool (attempting to take the restraint 
	to the floor) by which to force carers to disengage?
	
	The 'Positive Options' model of physical intervention pays particular regard 
	to the risks associated with floor restraints, and in particular that of 
	positional asphyxia, and does not advocate the use of floor restraints but 
	acknowledges that some situations will go to the floor, generally led by the 
	client, and that these then should be controlled (the descent) and managed 
	safely whilst at the safe time minimising the risk to staff and client 
	alike.
	
	I would welcome the thoughts of others on this matter.
	
	Darryl Freeman
	Professional Development Manager
	Residential Care & Support Unit
	Surrey Children's Service
	
	If anyone is interested in knowing more about the Positive Options model, 
	one of its originators, Chris Stirling, can be contacted 
	HERE. The joint guidance 
	issued by the DoH/DfES can be found at
	
	http://www.dfes.gov.uk/sen/documents/PI_Guidance.pdf
	...
	
	As one of the CYC's that has been hit, kicked, hair pulled, and spit on, I 
	truly have to wonder where the line gets drawn. I haven't been in the field 
	for very long (2 years), but I have experienced a fairly wide variety of 
	kids. The tough question about face down restraints is:
	
	Even though it's against the rules (and I understand it is in many 
	agencies), where is the line drawn to protect yourself as a person? And to 
	what extent do I have to expect consequence? I would far rather talk a 
	child/youth down, but sometimes that isn't
	realistic ... at least when they are trying to hurt themselves and others 
	(usually the worker). How do you provide quality care in environments where 
	the youth are volatile and the worker has to be concerned about what method 
	they use to keep that volatility under control – even when the rules in 
	place may be to the detriment of at least one party involved. And what about 
	those times (even though they really aren't supposed to happen) you are left 
	alone? Here in Lethbridge there is a restraint system that is very common, 
	BUT – all but a few need two people.
Just some things to think about.
	
	Jami
	Lethbridge, Alberta
	...
	
	Sadly, it seems that some have become much more concerned with appearing 
	'politically correct' than appearing to have any semblance of common sense 
	or real concern for clients. This 'issue' is a perfect example of that.
	
	As one who has been teaching and performing manual restraints for over 20 
	years I can tell you that there is no increase in safety for a typical 
	client when using a face up restraint. The only exception to that would be 
	for pregnant females or clients with severe asthma. Also, many clients that 
	I've talked with regarding the face up restraints have complained about 
	feeling very vulnerable being hit or otherwise injured in the stomach 
	region. Another complaint I've heard involved some panic reactions from
	sexually abused clients who felt that the face up restraint was much like a 
	replay of their abuse experiences.
	
	Staff who use face up vs. face down restraints complain of being continually 
	spat upon and bitten. Women staff members who do the face up restraints have 
	had their breasts bitten very seriously.
	
	There are two primary concerns with face down restraints:
	
	* Any weight from staff members on the upper back/torso region of the 
	client's body can compress the rib cage and make it difficult or impossible 
	for the client to breath. It is completely unnecessary for weight to be used 
	in this manner at all and, therefore, is a training issue and not a fault of 
	prone techniques en mass. In addition, if weight is used on the client's 
	chest area during a 'face up' restraint, the exact same problems
	exist.
	
	* If the staff members are not sure to place the client in a safe area for 
	the restraint, the client could suffocate due to being restrained on overly 
	soft surfaces like beds or pillows. Again, this is a training and quality of 
	care issue for supervisors and administrators rather than an indictment of 
	prone techniques.
	
	I have either been involved in or supervised hundreds of prone restraints 
	during my career. There is absolutely nothing inherently evil or dangerous 
	about well thought out, safe, appropriately applied prone restraints. There 
	is danger in any intervention, however, that is applied by careless or angry 
	staff who are supervised by incompetent or uninvolved supervisors.
	
	But, rather than deal with any real concerns as a field we will allow the 
	bureaucrats to take over the issue yet again. Those who have no experience 
	and will never have to deal with the consequences of their decisions will 
	dictate to all of us how things must be done. Business as usual.
	
	Jeff Glass
	...
	
	Recent threads: Touching. Hugging. Restraints, face-up or face-down, as 
	discussed so perceptively and sensitively by Jeff Glass in his message 
	yesterday. Note his final paragraph, quoted here: "But, rather than deal 
	with any real concerns as a field we will allow the bureaucrats to take over 
	the issue yet again. Those who have no experience and will never have to 
	deal with the consequences of their decisions will dictate to all of us how 
	things must be done. Business as usual."
	
	My reaction: Is it time for us to think about putting touching and related 
	issues--including the appropriate use of restraints--where we clearly have 
	both experience and expertise (e.g., reread Jeff's carefully nuanced 
	remarks) high on our social action/policy agenda for the field, perhaps with 
	the guidance of understanding attorneys and in concert with like-minded 
	educators and other mental health professionals? I think so!
	
	Jerry Beker
	...
	
	Restraints. When the concept of face down, or up restraints are being 
	addressed here I have not read if this is physical or mechanical in type. If 
	mechanical are they hard or soft. If mechanical is it legs and hands, 5 
	point or what. I would say if you need to retrain get the mechanical devices 
	on and then get off. Mechanical or soft Velcro restraints are much more safe 
	than the brute force kinda thing. Also once the restraints are applied one 
	can go about the working the youth through the process. I would refer you to 
	some one like Steve Cable who knows much more about this than I. I would 
	like to see the Policy and Procedures of the various agencies concerning 
	restraints. I would venture to say that the face up restraint may come out 
	of the hospital setting and the face down method from a more corrections 
	environment. Hospital settings can use chemical/medication PRNs where most
	corrections settings have very limited access to these forms of 
	interventions. Again, I would value hearing from those who do the training 
	in both settings.
	
	I am the manager of a 20 bed proctor program so we are not able to utilize 
	restraints, well almost never. Even so all foster parents and staff are 
	trained in CPI and the Oregon Intervention models.
	
	Larry