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Hi everyone
	
	As a student and new in the field, I had a question: at the moment I'm 
	starting to feel burnt out with all the assignments and my other personal 
	problems. Once you are in the profession, how are you able to keep your work 
	at work? Do you usually get emotionally attached to the youth? And if so, 
	how do you learn to deal with everything at work, and not let it bother you 
	at home?
	
	Thanks for taking the time to read and reply to this. I'm hoping to gain 
	some insight as to what I should expect. I'm really looking forward to this 
	career and as stressful as it is right now I know it will be worth 
	it.Thanks again,
	
	Emily Hogenson
	...
	
	
	First semester can be very stressful but you will benefit the MOST from 
	developing strategies for dealing with stress and "burnout" earlier than 
	later.
The biggest obstacle IMHO, is learning to separate work/school from your personal life. Yes, CYW's get emotionally attached to certain clients. The goal is to not allow this to influence your work with that client or other clients and to not allow your "connection" to go home with you.
I used to force myself to do something personal as soon as I got home from work; watch a TV show, hit the gym, talk with my wife(not about work), go to a movie, etc. This provided me with a specific time to transfer from work persona to personal persona. I also made it a point to talk/debrief with co-workers before leaving work so I could deal with any related issue or stress at work rather than taking it home with me.
Hope this helps, I am sure you will do fine and be able 
	to manage your stress and school expectations without issue.
	
	Steve Crema
	...
	
	Hi Emily,
	
	I can say you are not alone in your struggle :-) Managing personal wellness 
	is always a challenge in this field.
	
	After reading your query, I couldn't help analyzing when it is that I feel 
	burnt out the most. Interestingly, it is NOT when youth come to me with 
	heart-crushing disclosures or when I witness the complete chaos of many 
	youth's lives at once. My personal outlook on life is that all humans are 
	more resilient than we often give them credit for, and that although we talk
	
	about optimal development, we still recognize that each youth is developing 
	uniquely. Just as we recognize that there is no one "best practice" for all 
	youth. I know that all of the experiences in youth's lives will shape them 
	and that no matter what I do with each youth, all positive interactions will 
	influence their life trajectories.
	
	It is when I criticize my own personal practice that I feel most burt out. 
	If a transaction between youth and myself goes off the track – perhaps I 
	lose my temper, or I am "too busy" to find a few extra minutes for a youth 
	who has come seeking my time – that is when I beat myself up and question my 
	ability as a Child and Youth Care counsellor. We are each our own worst 
	critics (or so I have heard said). It is during those less positive 
	interactions when I do my greatest learning and reflection.
	
	But oh my! I can beat myself up all right! Not last week I shouted back at a 
	youth with FASD who was screaming obscenities at me at work (in a group of 
	yelling youth who were throwing objects around a room). I knew perfectly 
	well that had I lowered my energy, or left the room, that the energy would 
	have calmed, but I chose to holler-back out of frustration. The following 
	day I wanted to stay home, avoid the youth at all costs, but when I got to 
	work they all approached to check in with me and apologize for behaving the 
	way they did, and I was able to do the same back.
	
	Good burn-out prevention strategies that I use include: debriefing with 
	co-workers, colleagues and my supervior often; making sure my days off are 
	filled with activities I enjoy (to remind myself that my job is not 
	all-encompassing and that there is more to me than just my job); having a 
	clear practice philosophy that allows for recognizing strengths versus 
	weaknesses in human nature and development; and journaling if I feel 
	something is stuck on my mind.
	
	Good luck in your search for personal wellness in the field.
	
	Maddy
	CYC – Youth Worker in Vancouver
	...
	
	I guess the first thing is ...you have to learn to separate. In my opinion 
	its paramount. Now this doesn't mean we stop caring ... on the contrary. I 
	believe that every person in our care affects us in some way ... its how we 
	deal with that affect that matters. Some people use meditation, music, 
	reading and art while others have a strong support network to vent their 
	frustrations. There are many ways to stop burnout ... you just have to find 
	your way. As for School ... This is your first semester? All I can say is, 
	get used to it. The assignments will get tougher and so will the stress.
Look at it this way ... if you can't cope with the 
	stress in school then how are you supposed to cope with the stress at work 
	which sometimes is double what your experiencing now? But I can guarantee 
	the outcome of hard work and determination will be worthwhile and you will 
	see that this field is awesome.
	
	Bill MacIntyre
	...
	
	Emily, I think the main focus in our field is Self-Care, this is one of the 
	most important foundations as a Child and Youth Care Worker. It is so 
	important to make the time to do activities that you enjoy (i.e. jogging, 
	swimming, going out with your friends). These are the things that will make 
	you sane.
	
	In regards to keeping your work at work, I think it is important to process 
	everything that happened on your shift with your co-workers or with your 
	supervisor on your regular scheduled supervision with your supervisor. This 
	way it really does reduce you to take work home with you.
	
	Thirdly, in terms of getting emotionally attached with the kids you are 
	working with, I believe this is a lesson that will occur through trial and 
	error. Just a little advice if you become emotionally attached to the youth 
	you are working with you will be burnt out very fast in this. Just try to 
	remember your purpose of getting in this field in the first place. "You 
	can't be effective if you can't be objective".
	
	Hope this helps.
	Dave Zimmerman
	...
	
	Hi,
I too am a student at Douglas College in New Westminster 
	BC, and have felt the exact same way earlier on in this semester! All the 
	assignments and papers were overwhelming but I got through it. I often 
	wondered if it was worth it, but here I am, we are in our 3 weeks of 
	practicum, and it is definitely worth it! Burnout-- that's where one draws 
	the line and personal wellness comes in and as for attachments, there is a 
	fine line when working with youth, yes its hard, but this is why we are 
	doing what we are doing-- to help, not to have the youth dependent on us.
	
	Hope this helps!
	Keep up the good work-- you are on the right track, as you wouldn't be 
	asking these questions!
Laura Wilson
	...
	
	Hi there,
	I myself just finished a 2 year Child and Youth Care course. You're right, 
	burn out is everywhere, but hang tight it does get better. I think it's 
	important to find something that is a good stress reliever for you. 
	
	My stress reliever is my 3 year old son. It can be difficult not to get 
	attached to the youth, it's just important to keep in mind that your 
	relationship with them is only temporary, however you're human and you do 
	get attached if you really care about their well being. 
	
	I find for the most part I can keep my work at work but after every shift I 
	go home and take some time to reflect on my day and what went right and what 
	went wrong. Reflecting in itself can help you to not get burnt out too 
	quickly. It's also good to talk to your co workers and let them know how 
	you're feeling and maybe there is something they can do. 
	
	That's why communication is so important in this field. Hope I was able to 
	help even a little.
Melissa Lane
	Sackville, NS
	...
Hi Emily,
	I am a Child and Youth Care student at Lethbridge Community College as well but I am 
	finishing up my third semester. I just wanted to tell you that in terms of 
	your assignment load ... it gets better. I remember in the first semester, 
	we were all scrambling and stressed as well, and once you get to know what 
	the instructors expect and become familiar with the whole Child and Youth Care approach, it 
	all gets easier. 
	
	I am in my second practicum and have worked a little in the field. As far as 
	taking issues home, everyone has their own method. I use humour and almost 
	try to detach a little. Instead of focusing on the terrible things in a 
	youth's file, I will focus on what the youth likes to do or a good part 
	about their day. I also involve myself in programs where I can see immediate 
	interaction and results. These groups show me how the system can work 
	whereas I might see and focus on ways it doesn't.
	
	I hope this helps a little!
	Crystal Bernhard 
	...
	
	Dear Emily,
	I was going through your mail on Child and Youth Care net. It's all in the heart and mind. 
	Yes we do get physically worked out but think of the vision and goals you 
	have set for yourself. Do not get upset about the problems and situations of 
	others, rise above this situation. You are studying this because you know 
	that you want to help youngsters and children. Aove all take god's help. 
	Exchange your weakness with his strength – and then keep seeing what he can 
	do.
Good luck – Grace
	...
	
	Emily;
	
	I am a recent graduate from the Child and Youth Worker program at St. Clair 
	College in Windsor, On. I most definitely understand where you are coming 
	from. What really helped me while I was attending college was to talk to my 
	classmates, who were also my friends. This helped me vent my feelings and 
	the fact that they were in the same position helped out a lot because I knew 
	that I was not alone in feeling overwhelmed.
	
	As for working in the field, talk to a coworker with whom you trust or 
	confide in the people with whom you love, but remember to keep things 
	confidential if it's with people outside of work.
	
	It's okay to feel overwhelmed, take a break and do something that relaxes 
	you for an hour and then work on your assignments. Ask for help from your 
	classmates or teachers. 
	
	You can do it!
	
	Sincerely,
	Georgina Tsitsas, CYW
	...
	
	Hi Emily:
	My name is Charlene Parks and I am in my second year of the Child and Youth 
	Care Counselling Program in Calgary at Mount Royal College. I totally 
	understand your point of view and frustrations. In class we have been taught 
	about controlled emotional involvement with the children and youth that we 
	work with. While we are human and attachments do occur, we do need to 
	realize the big picture in your relationship with the child and understand 
	that we are in a child/youth's life for a season, and it is just that.
	Understanding that may have an impact on how and when we burnout. I find I 
	reach burnout point when i am overly emotionally invested and need to take a 
	step back and look at the bigger picture. That is tough sometimes and 
	especially to recognize that burnout may be approaching.
	
	Ensure at the end of the day that you have wrapped up your business at work 
	and leave it there again understanding that you are there for a time, making 
	an impact in a child' life can't take place when you are burnt out and cant 
	see the light at the end of the tunnel. Surround yourself with friends who 
	aren't in the field, so that you don't regress back to talking about "work"
	related things when you are together. Enjoy the time you do have off and 
	make it count for something. 
	
	Good luck with your program down in Lethbridge and I hope this helped!
Charlene Parks
	...
	
	Hi, my name is Nicole Leduc. I am currently finishing my first semester of 
	Child and Youth Care at the Lethbridge Community College. I have the 
	opportunity to go to Africa for my final practicum in the winter 2008 
	semester. However, even though I know this would be a life-changing 
	experience for me that I would greatly enjoy, many have told me the smartest 
	move would be to stay in the area in which I hope to obtain a job after I 
	graduate. This is because the practicum is 10 weeks and they usually end up 
	hiring their practicum students. Any advice on the subject would be greatly 
	accepted.
	
	Nicole Leduc
	...
	
	Emily, It has not been easy for me , but it is getting better. I have been 
	in the field for only 4 months. I find it a bit scary because as a drug 
	counsellor for teens at a long term rehab, I hear so much terrible things 
	from my kids, and I actually can find it almost normal to hear about the 
	tragedies in their lives. Of course there are many times I go home and 
	cry,or worry about a teen at work. I think you need to remind yourself often 
	to not think about work when you leave. After 4 months, it is getting 
	easier. I also feel that if we don't keep the compassion and empathy for our 
	young people we will not be able to help them. I guess there is a balance 
	and only time will help you find yours. Best of luck Emily, and God Bless!
From: cmcewen
	...
	
	You are correct in that it is very easy to get emotionally attached. However 
	in my opinion, the youth will respect you more if you do not get overly 
	attached. Put yourself in their shoes for a second. How do you suppose you 
	would have felt if a total stranger started immensely caring and worrying 
	for you? Probably quite uncomfortable. As a Care provider, you have to be 
	aware of responsible caring and overly caring. Having said this, I did have 
	to take time off of work a while ago because I was getting burnt out due to 
	caring to much (beyond my responsibilities). When I decided I was ready to 
	come back, I made myself a promise to not get overly involved and to leave 
	work at work. 
	
	Something you might want to tell yourself is the following: "If I let myself 
	get overly involved, all my training and experience will go to waste as it 
	will only cause burn out." 
	
	Furthermore, if you make an effort not to get emotionally too involved, you 
	will usually always be full of energy, and as a result, you will be able to 
	do more for the clients. Remember, these clients are just that (clients) 
	they are not your own kids. 90% of clients will not want you to treat them 
	or think of them like your own kids. They just want you to care for them on 
	a professional basis. 
	
	(Getting overly involved is truly something you should make a point of 
	refusing to do, because it is not in your job description.) You will have no 
	reason to feel guilty for this, only proud due to allowing yourself to 
	remain sane.
From: Mister Home Chef 
	Youth Worker for 18 years.
	...
	
	Hi Emily
	I am a second year student in the CYCC program at Mount Royal College in 
	Calgary.
	
	I have sincerely enjoyed the challenge of my program. Like you and others I 
	have been stressed and overwhelmed by school. We as child and youth workers 
	have not chosen the easiest career in the world, that's for sure! Being 
	exposed to and having to hear about and think about the difficult and 
	disturbing side of humanity can leave you feeling drained and defeated. One 
	thing I have learned from my program is the importance of self care. We are 
	no good to others if we are not good to our selves first. Last week we had a 
	lecture on vicarious trauma. Some key points that I took away from that 
	lecture were the importance of knowing yourself. Not only your thoughts 
	values and beliefs, but signs of stress, burnout and emotional strain. 
Having healthy relationships with the people in our lives is a good way to deal with the difficult times in our career. Rest and relaxation are also key. Rest consisting of a good amount of sleep, a healthy diet and quality time to yourself (what ever is possible in your personal life). True relaxation beyond watching TV or "vegging out" could be yoga, deep breathing or anything that turns off your mind for a while. Debriefing about your day or talking to a good friend (without breaching confidentiality) or someone who understands is a healthy way to let go of your day before you get home.
There are so many ways to deal with "burn out" the 
	important thing is finding what works best for you.
	
	Take Care.
	Elisha Heary
	...
	
	Hi Emily,
	How does anyone deal with burning out? Well, I guess for me it's a matter of 
	prioritizing what needs to be done, and making sure it gets done hopefully 
	before I don't have any choice but to do it! Don't wait 'til the last minute 
	to do your assignments – I know when I've done that my stress level goes up, 
	up, up and it impacts everyone around me. I remember when I started college 
	(many moons ago) it sometimes felt like there were not enough hours in the 
	day, but before you know it Emily, just by putting one foot in front of the 
	other each day, it's done and you're done. Try not to carry your burdens, 
	each day is a fresh start for you and your clients. 
Emily, I've been fostering adolescent females for 
	sixteen years now, believe me – they all grow up, they all move on, and they 
	are all impacted by the work we do at some point in the future. We may not 
	see the changes while we work with them Emily, however if we remember that 
	our interactions today are significant in their future, perhaps we can be at 
	peace somehow. Keep in touch, and good luck with the balancing act. Didn't 
	you know a prerequisite for this field is to be a juggler?
	
	Diane Rapkoski
	Pickering, Ontario
	...
	
	Emily,
	
	My name is Krista and I'm a student at Mount Royal College, finishing my 
	second year of the two year Child and Youth Care Counsellor Program. I 
	enjoyed reading your response because I can relate to your concerns. 
There are three exercises that you should make a part of your life style that will solve your concerns; self care day, talking out personal issues, and debriefing with co-workers after each shift.
An important key to dealing with being burnt out in school/work is to always take a "Self Care Day" anytime you feel you need it. A Self Care Day is a day to do what makes you relaxed. It's a day to put everything aside in your life and take time to yourself, to heal yourself from being burnt out.
In regards to dealing with personal issues, it's very 
	important to talk about your issues with friends, family or even a 
	professional. Once stepping into this field, many professionals are faced 
	with underlying issues that they didn't even know they had, and are required 
	to deal with them before counselling others. Remember, this is completely 
	normal; everyone deals with personal issues when entering such an important 
	career.
	
	Answering your question, on how to leave your work at work and not bring it 
	home. I find that it's effective to talk and debrief your thoughts and 
	feelings after each shift, at work, with your co-workers. By doing this, 
	you're expressing your thoughts and feelings and letting them out, before 
	going home. There will be many times when you're at home, constantly 
	thinking about work. When this happens you need to relax your brain and keep 
	yourself busy.
Once you've become in the habit of taking personal self 
	care days, talking out personal problems, and debriefing with staff after 
	each shift, you will do just fine in the field. There will be times when you 
	become very burnt out in this filed, but if you practice these three self 
	care exercises on a regular basis, you will deal with being burnt out and 
	won't take your work home with you.
	Keep your head up and remember that when you're in the field, you can change 
	the lives of many children and youth!
	
	Krista Lauren Chahley 
	...
I think the key to dealing with burn out is balance. I 
	know that when I don't take time for myself I feel overwhelmed much sooner 
	than when I balance all of the things that I have on the go, I schedule in 
	hours (or even 30 minutes) in my week when I am not dealing with people 
	issues, work issues, school issues, husband issues, and I just do something 
	fun and relaxing, or I listen to music or journal, something that is about 
	rejuvenating my spirit. 
	
	I know that I am in this field because I naturally have a tendency to help 
	people, but you have to be able to separate your need to help people
	
	and your need to keep your body and mind functioning. I think that the most 
	important thing you can do as a CYCC is learn to say no. DO NOT let people 
	interrupt and step into that "self care" time, the minute you do that you 
	are saying that they are more important than you, and you cannot be 
	effective in what you are doing if you do not value yourself. Value yourself 
	and your time enough to say no, not now. Even if it seems mean, or if it 
	seems like they really need you. The truth is YOU really need you. YOo are 
	the only person who is going to look after you, and if you don't look after 
	yourself, you are going to burn out. It will not be a matter of IF but a 
	matter of WHEN, so take care of yourself so that you can take care of 
	others. MAKE THE TIME, FIND THE TIME, USE THE TIME.....
Lara Hooge
	...
	
	Emily, The worst is almost over!! I've come from LCC and am finishing my 
	second practicum right now. ORGANIZATION is key: if you don't know where to 
	start, start with the easy parts first. I find that finishing one thing 
	before moving on to another helps. Prioritize, make as many lists as you 
	can. Trust me I felt very burnt out after that hard semester, (they try and 
	weed out the weak ones first!) If you can get through it you'll be fine next 
	semester GOOD LUCK!!
Heather Abbott 
	...
	
	Hi Emily Hogenson,
	
	I'm Carmela Fruncillo and I too am in Child and Youth Care. I am in my 
	second year at Mount Royal College in Calgary, Alberta. Burnout, what a 
	scary word. Your fear use to be my fear as well. However, further in your 
	education you will be taught many stress relievers, such as drawing, 
	reading, warm baths, speaking to someone and/or self care. Self care is huge 
	in this field. It is very important to be sure your needs are met before you 
	are able to help others with theirs. Self care can be different for 
	everyone. This could be spending the day reading your favorite comics, going 
	for a long relaxing walk, getting your nails done, or taking a long bubble 
	bath. Self care is all about you and your wants and needs.
There is something called the "Three R's": Rest, 
	Relaxation and Relationships. You must be sure to have enough rest; just 
	like a day at work, or a day at school, it can be extremely tough when you 
	didn't have enough sleep the night before. Be sure to get enough sleep every 
	as well as eating healthy. Making sure you are eating right (veggies, 
	protein, and lot's of water) will help your body and brain function properly 
	so you will have enough energy to get through the day. Relaxation basically 
	means doing nothing but breathing. Taking deep breaths and solely focusing 
	on breathing tells your mind and body that you are relaxing and 
	worry free. Emily, everyday about four times a day, breath in (taking four 
	seconds), hold it for four seconds and then release taking four seconds. I 
	was told this a couple weeks ago and I'm already noticing a difference. It 
	gives me a minute to concentrate only on breathing, so my body is super 
	relaxed. Last but not least, Relationships. Having healthy relationships is 
	huge in life. It is very important to have supportive people in your life 
	when you are dealing with many people and their many problems. Some days it 
	will feel like your clients are sucking all the support you have right out 
	of you. So it is very critical to have people 
	in your life who are optimistic, friendly, supportive and understanding.
These are the people you can turn to when you have a bad day, or when you need a positive boost for what may have been a very sad, pessimistic day. Taking care of yourself Emily is crucial in our field. We are here to help others help themselves, so in order to do our part successfully we need to be strong and healthy. We need to be sure to have enough rest, relaxation and carry on healthy relationships.
I think, only with time will we learn to separate work 
	from personal. I think we are taught different techniques of stress and self 
	care, however I think that only with time and experience will we be able to 
	truly separate ourselves from this emotionally draining career and our own 
	lives. Find any stress relievers that are good for you and practice them 
	often as well as keeping up on the self care. There are times in my 
	practicum I catch myself very hurt, worried, and concerned about something 
	after I leave for the day. So what I find works for me (as abrupt as this 
	may seem) I remind myself that it isn't my life. I have to remind myself
	
	that whatever I did today I think I did it out of my best knowledge, there 
	is nothing I can do now to change what I did or said. I need to remember 
	that they are their own person and they end up making the decisions and 
	choices that effect them. Emily, once you further your education and 
	experience you will build confidence in yourself and I really think that 
	will help with the fears you have. I hope this helped.
	
	Good luck and take care,
	
	Carmela Fruncillo
	...
	
	Emily,
	As you are finding out, all you have to do is to mention that you are 
	experiencing burn out and emotional confusion, and you will receive buckets 
	of prescriptive and constructive advice. I am not new to the 
	professional field. I have a long history in the field; and I have done many 
	excursions into the subjective, ambiguous, and sometimes painful worlds of 
	burn out, job dissatisfaction, professional discouragement, role confusion, 
	emotional conflict, and many others including just plain old overworking/ 
	overextending myself. What you have said about yourself in 
	respect to your newness to the Child and Youth Care field seems at the surface to be so 
	absolutely normal that it is so easy for anyone to identify with what you 
	are experiencing and questioning. Consequently, you are receiving lots of 
	helpful advice.... but, for all I know, there may be other more 
	personalissues that may be playing in this situation. 
	
	This is why my primary response to your concern is to first hold myself back 
	from giving you prescriptive advice, but instead to ask you whether you are 
	getting good clinical supervision from your work site and from your faculty.
	In my opinion, if youwant to "handle" the emotional demands of this line of 
	work, then get a wide assortment of advice and select those items that you 
	choose to use for yourself; but if you want to learn and grow both 
	professionally and personally, then you should be getting (and using!) good 
	clinical supervision so that you can learn how to explore and examine these 
	issues, particularly if they influence the quality of your work and 
	professional learning. I hope that this is the case in you receiving 
	supervision. If not, then I would (yes, here I go with some advice giving) 
	demand it. Asking for supervision is not a sign of weakness but an 
	indication of professional awareness and commitment. 
	
	Mark Greenwald
	Retired Child and Youth Care educator and supervisor
	...
	
	Emily,
	
	I am sorry to say that you can take the work home with you and get 
	emotionally attached. You are an empathetic person are you not? I would 
	think that is why you are wanting to pursue this path.
	
	The main thing I remember from my Child and Youth Care instructors is that you can only do 
	what you can for the time you have. Meaning you will have a lot of theories 
	and jargon thrown at you, as well as issues and stories you may not believe 
	can be possible in this day and age. My suggestion to you is take care of 
	yourself first and use this educational time to get to know who you are and 
	what will be your stress reliever, outlet, vice, whatever you want to call 
	it.
Basically you will take in the book stuff and apply it to your ideals ans keep what fits for you. As for burnout, and personal problems, well those feels do not go away until you come to understand your issues and your personal process. This may take reaching out to others. You can create a support system of peers, friends, instructors and even professionals. We were taught that if we were not able to put our issues aside "in the moment" then how can we fully support another.
Does that make sense to you Emily, if not you can email me and we can chat further.
One more thing, in your school time explore the many 
	areas you can apply your skills. Find your passion, be it an age group and 
	or a type of facility you are interested in working at and explore your 
	possibilities. You can do informational interviewing, practical work 
	experience or volunteering.
	
	I hope this has been helpful, I find it helpful to get me refocused too 
	because we need to be flexible at times and change with our circumstance. 
	Also give yourself a break once in a while sometimes your best is just being 
	there.
	
	Take care.
	Kelly House
	CCW Georges Vanier Elementary